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	<title>Comments on: iPriorities: Our Society Misses the Mark Again</title>
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		<title>By: Tausign, SFO</title>
		<link>http://datinggod.org/2011/10/06/ipriorities-our-society-misses-the-mark-again/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tausign, SFO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 05:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was remarking to my wife about the amount of attention devoted to Steve Jobs.  He rose to a cult figure.  In true secular fashion, there&#039;s little mention of any moral virtues or sacrifices. Instead he is hailed for &#039;empowering&#039; us, being a &#039;visionary&#039; and one who &#039;transformed us&#039; with his business and technological prowess.  

I think this praise of personal empowerment over personal sacrifice  creates a moral ambiguity.  I don&#039;t wish to criticise Steve Jobs, in many ways his life was praiseworthy.  It&#039;s simply a commentary on our culture, which lacks a cadre of saint like figures, to gravitate toward the cult of personality.  Often its the cult of dysfunctional personality a la Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, etc.  

Regarding proximate deaths, another stark contrast was the funeral coverage of Princess Diana and Mother Teresa of Calcutta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was remarking to my wife about the amount of attention devoted to Steve Jobs.  He rose to a cult figure.  In true secular fashion, there&#8217;s little mention of any moral virtues or sacrifices. Instead he is hailed for &#8216;empowering&#8217; us, being a &#8216;visionary&#8217; and one who &#8216;transformed us&#8217; with his business and technological prowess.  </p>
<p>I think this praise of personal empowerment over personal sacrifice  creates a moral ambiguity.  I don&#8217;t wish to criticise Steve Jobs, in many ways his life was praiseworthy.  It&#8217;s simply a commentary on our culture, which lacks a cadre of saint like figures, to gravitate toward the cult of personality.  Often its the cult of dysfunctional personality a la Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, etc.  </p>
<p>Regarding proximate deaths, another stark contrast was the funeral coverage of Princess Diana and Mother Teresa of Calcutta.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Carol Kendzia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Carol Kendzia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 02:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derrick Bell is another outstanding individual who died on Wednesday http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/us/derrick-bell-pioneering-harvard-law-professor-dies-at-80.html?ref=obituaries. And let us not forget the thousands of other people who really didn&#039;t have much newsworthy legacy except the mark of their own humble lives!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick Bell is another outstanding individual who died on Wednesday <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/us/derrick-bell-pioneering-harvard-law-professor-dies-at-80.html?ref=obituaries" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/us/derrick-bell-pioneering-harvard-law-professor-dies-at-80.html?ref=obituaries</a>. And let us not forget the thousands of other people who really didn&#8217;t have much newsworthy legacy except the mark of their own humble lives!</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jared]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Br. Dan, It seems that the Non-Violence Movement would embrace this opportunity to point out that Steven Jobs was adopted, after his young, unwed mother protected his life. I have unfortunately come to suspect that &quot;non violence&quot; as a movement is really &quot;anti-death penalty and war&quot;, in the same way that &quot;pro-life&quot; as a movement so often simply means anti-abortion. Those who grieve his loss might actually see the life in a totally new and profound way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Br. Dan, It seems that the Non-Violence Movement would embrace this opportunity to point out that Steven Jobs was adopted, after his young, unwed mother protected his life. I have unfortunately come to suspect that &#8220;non violence&#8221; as a movement is really &#8220;anti-death penalty and war&#8221;, in the same way that &#8220;pro-life&#8221; as a movement so often simply means anti-abortion. Those who grieve his loss might actually see the life in a totally new and profound way.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew M.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well remember also the big story of the day in the media is covering the trial Michael Jackson&#039;s doctor!?!??!

I agree, there are serious issues with the priorities, and it starts sadly with the media, has THEY seem to be telling the people what is important. 

However, I do disagree with the anti-capitalism sentiment posed in the other post.  I am quite certain, (although I have not researched properly, nor care too), Mr. Jobs probably has done quite a bit of philanthropy over the years.  And, just because it did not go through the &quot;government&quot; to help with &quot;social justice&quot; issues, does NOT make him a bad person.  The last time I checked, is it not part of our call, to discern our vocation and put our God-given talents to work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well remember also the big story of the day in the media is covering the trial Michael Jackson&#8217;s doctor!?!??!</p>
<p>I agree, there are serious issues with the priorities, and it starts sadly with the media, has THEY seem to be telling the people what is important. </p>
<p>However, I do disagree with the anti-capitalism sentiment posed in the other post.  I am quite certain, (although I have not researched properly, nor care too), Mr. Jobs probably has done quite a bit of philanthropy over the years.  And, just because it did not go through the &#8220;government&#8221; to help with &#8220;social justice&#8221; issues, does NOT make him a bad person.  The last time I checked, is it not part of our call, to discern our vocation and put our God-given talents to work?</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Rossi Szpylczyn</title>
		<link>http://datinggod.org/2011/10/06/ipriorities-our-society-misses-the-mark-again/#comment-3296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fran Rossi Szpylczyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could not agree more and have actually posted very little other than two quick links about Jobs. I wish him rest and peace and I pray for consolation for all who knew and loved him. Yes - he did change our lives but the adoration is out of proportion.

Then I think about our consumerist society and the values of the world. That sentence sounds more smarmy than I want it to, but what else can I say?

We have made a god out of products and materials and while they can change our lives (note, Mac Book Pro here too and it *has* changed my life) , in what ways and how? 

So by making a god of products and commerce too, we do put Jobs in this place by virtue of our missteps as a people.

With no disrespect for a truly remarkable person who has died, I was reminded as I listened to Marketplace (NPR) last night that despite it looming large, Apple products have relatively small market shares. This is a reminder - for me anyway, maybe you too - that we put on the false self all the time. I know I do and this is the ultimate representation of that in many ways.

Shuttlesworth on the other hand reminds us of what we are meant to acquire - dignity, justice, hope. Those things cannot come out of a shiny metal box of any size other than through the words, thoughts and actions of humans who might be seen and experienced in those boxes.

But we would rather love the shiny box and notion of transformation through it rather than the much less appealing idea of what we give up and what we gain through humanity.

This turned into a rant that I had no idea existed in me... In any event, rest and peace for Fred Shuttlesworth and consolation for all who loved him. He too changed the world, just far more anonymously and may his legacy live on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more and have actually posted very little other than two quick links about Jobs. I wish him rest and peace and I pray for consolation for all who knew and loved him. Yes &#8211; he did change our lives but the adoration is out of proportion.</p>
<p>Then I think about our consumerist society and the values of the world. That sentence sounds more smarmy than I want it to, but what else can I say?</p>
<p>We have made a god out of products and materials and while they can change our lives (note, Mac Book Pro here too and it *has* changed my life) , in what ways and how? </p>
<p>So by making a god of products and commerce too, we do put Jobs in this place by virtue of our missteps as a people.</p>
<p>With no disrespect for a truly remarkable person who has died, I was reminded as I listened to Marketplace (NPR) last night that despite it looming large, Apple products have relatively small market shares. This is a reminder &#8211; for me anyway, maybe you too &#8211; that we put on the false self all the time. I know I do and this is the ultimate representation of that in many ways.</p>
<p>Shuttlesworth on the other hand reminds us of what we are meant to acquire &#8211; dignity, justice, hope. Those things cannot come out of a shiny metal box of any size other than through the words, thoughts and actions of humans who might be seen and experienced in those boxes.</p>
<p>But we would rather love the shiny box and notion of transformation through it rather than the much less appealing idea of what we give up and what we gain through humanity.</p>
<p>This turned into a rant that I had no idea existed in me&#8230; In any event, rest and peace for Fred Shuttlesworth and consolation for all who loved him. He too changed the world, just far more anonymously and may his legacy live on.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe I&#039;m saying this but I&#039;m going to have to go with the media on this one.

I&#039;m typing on a MacBook, and Steve Jobs was 56. I&#039;ve heard about Steve Jobs during my childhood because my Dad has been a Mac user for years. It&#039;s very surprising to me that Steve Jobs died. I expected the media to cover it.

I&#039;ve never heard of that guy and he was 89. I don&#039;t expect the media to cover it. In fact the world might never notice. But his friends and family knows what he has done and more importantly God knows what he has done and will reward him accordingly. I&#039;m no bible scholar but isn&#039;t there a passage that who ever gets recognized on Earth has received there reward but whoever doesn&#039;t God will reward?

The media is praising Steve Jobs now but tomorrow it will forget and the day after that it will be saying Apple makes garbage. If this man is half as good as you say he is he will be remembered regardless of how much &quot;airtime&quot; he gets. But it doesn&#039;t matter either way, God never forgets a good deed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m saying this but I&#8217;m going to have to go with the media on this one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m typing on a MacBook, and Steve Jobs was 56. I&#8217;ve heard about Steve Jobs during my childhood because my Dad has been a Mac user for years. It&#8217;s very surprising to me that Steve Jobs died. I expected the media to cover it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of that guy and he was 89. I don&#8217;t expect the media to cover it. In fact the world might never notice. But his friends and family knows what he has done and more importantly God knows what he has done and will reward him accordingly. I&#8217;m no bible scholar but isn&#8217;t there a passage that who ever gets recognized on Earth has received there reward but whoever doesn&#8217;t God will reward?</p>
<p>The media is praising Steve Jobs now but tomorrow it will forget and the day after that it will be saying Apple makes garbage. If this man is half as good as you say he is he will be remembered regardless of how much &#8220;airtime&#8221; he gets. But it doesn&#8217;t matter either way, God never forgets a good deed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobs vs. Shuttlesworth &#171; A Pastor Named Questor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jobs vs. Shuttlesworth &#171; A Pastor Named Questor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] One blogger wonders about our priorities in the wake of the death of a prominent figure: Fred L. Shuttlesworth, a pioneer and central leader in the United States Civil-Rights Movement died at the age of 89. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One blogger wonders about our priorities in the wake of the death of a prominent figure: Fred L. Shuttlesworth, a pioneer and central leader in the United States Civil-Rights Movement died at the age of 89. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ward gasque</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ward gasque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been thinking along the same line, but more focused on the fact that the CBC, BBC and other media keep talking about how much our lives have been changed by the impact of the innovations of Steve Jobs and Apple.  I, too, am writing on a MacBook Pro.

What what about the billions who have never yet had access to virtually any media.  It seems that these men, women and children have not been touched by any of these wonderful toys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking along the same line, but more focused on the fact that the CBC, BBC and other media keep talking about how much our lives have been changed by the impact of the innovations of Steve Jobs and Apple.  I, too, am writing on a MacBook Pro.</p>
<p>What what about the billions who have never yet had access to virtually any media.  It seems that these men, women and children have not been touched by any of these wonderful toys.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was there not a distantly analogous situation with the deaths of John F. Kennedy, C.S. Lewis, and Aldous Huxley on November 22, 1963?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there not a distantly analogous situation with the deaths of John F. Kennedy, C.S. Lewis, and Aldous Huxley on November 22, 1963?</p>
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